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Postby ephelce » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:27 am

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Subject title: [NSFW] Ephelce's sketchbook

Hello everybody :) I'm 19 years old, have been drawing since last october and started working digitally for the first time in january. I never did any art before that, but I decided I wanted to try to become a professional a few months ago, so I've been working really hard since then. I'm getting better with my studies, but stuff I make without reference is really rough still.

I've primarily been doing figure painting so far, and portraits. These are some digital studies I did in march/late feb:

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This one used stock from Marcus Ranum, btw.

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And here are a couple things done from imagination:
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Constructive critique would be appreciated, since I'm trying to improve, and I'll try to post a couple times a week. Thanks for looking!

 

Postby ephelce » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:30 am

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Been working on a portrait and some facial feature studies over the past few days, and painted some lips without reference. Not super satisfied with the final results, but I think I learned a lot so whatever :D

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Would love some feedback!

 

Postby ephelce » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:48 pm

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Hair studies today, so I'm posting an in progress I actually kinda like. Gonna take a break from this one and do a few more quick ones, then maybe go back to it. Worried rendering it more will actually make it look worse though.

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Postby ephelce » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:31 am

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Added some colour and a face. Still in-progress.
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Postby ephelce » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:15 pm

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Today's update (just gonna try to update every day after all since I've been drawing a crazy amount). Some more hair studies and a manatee. Having a hard time keeping hair strands separate and defined, hair is pretty complex, and I felt like the hair was too glossy, especially for the beard, so I tried switching to a different brush for the black hair. Am going to try giving beards another shot sometimes later, but I might switch to hand studies soon, after I do proper hair colour studies. Any advice would be appreciated!
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Postby ephelce » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:10 am

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Another post I guess, marking down stuff I've drawn since the last. The afro study is awful-looking I think, but I had fun with it :D
Would love some feedback! Still haven't had any, it's bumming me out a bit, haha.

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Postby ephelce » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:48 pm

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Another post I guess... Just some shading studies without reference.
Is there a reason I'm getting zero input? Legitimate question, all the sketchbooks here seem to be getting comments except mine. I know it ain't great but that's why I'm posting, to improve.
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Postby DRaff210 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:53 am

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I'll comment! Sorry you haven't had any feedback yet, it's not a good feeling. :/

Anyway, I really love all the painting you're doing - and in such a short amount of time, too! I gotta admit I'm a little envious of your drive, having been in a really bad creative slump lately. The girl with the wavy hair looks really good, and must have been a challenge; I know hair is one of my biggest weak points. I will say that I do feel like most of your paintings could definitely use more hard, defined edges. Most of them seem quite blurry to me, and given the level of rendering you're doing it could just be that you're using too soft a brush? If that's what it is, try using harder brushes - even the default round brush in Photoshop would suffice. :)

Also, the figure studies you did in your previous post, the ones that are all made of boxes? Keep doing lots and lots of those! Learning how to construct the body and its parts out of simple cube shapes is probably the single most important lesson I've taken away from my studies so far. This video in particular is one of the most valuable I've found on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqxPHew5bGQ. You'll improve ridiculously fast if you do a lot of timed figure drawings using the box method.

So yeah! I really like your stuff, and don't feel too bummed about the lack of comments so far. Stay active and engaged with other forum members, and I think you'll find your sketchbook growing with feedback sooner than you think. :lol:

 

Postby Mandilor » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:43 am

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Wow for someone who has just started a couple months ago you're pretty good for a beginner. Much better then when I started.

Since you asked for feedback I'll give you a pointer. Your stuff is all fuzzy. You need to use more hard edges. Also make sure to keep your silhouettes clean. The "line" between two "objects" where one is in front of the other.

Also it's a good idea to not go any darker than 10% when painting realistically digitally. Work on getting more mileage with the values lighter than that. Doing that will help you control your contrasts and shadows.

I did a quick paint over for you to help show what I'm talking about. Hope it helps. Keep up the good work and you'll be pro in a couple years!
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Postby ephelce » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:12 am

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Thank you so much guys! It means a lot to me. I've been kinda busy and tired today so I haven't done too much, but I worked on an older unfinished portrait, trying to get those edges to look more solid. I've been using an airbrush and I usually keep the size large, so you guys are right, it gets way too fuzzy. I'm gonna stay away from it for a bit and experiment with brushes here and there. Portrait is still unfinished, but hopefully I can get it even better tomorrow.
Sorry to hear that about the creative slump :| . It really sucks when that happens. I don't know if this is useful advice or not but I find what helps me when that happens is reading a lot, or writing, it helps me remember why I even want to draw. Hope you get out of it.
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Postby miloyoyo » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:02 am

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great to see that you're uploading consistently these past few days. keep up the hard work and getting that mileage! I love that manatee btw, super cute

 

Postby ephelce » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:26 am

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Thank you very much! And yeah, mileage is definitely my big priority right now.

I wanted to try to work on being more confident in my brushstrokes and not painting over so much, and editing/mixing my brushstrokes so much, plus getting work on those harder edges, so I tried painting over yesterday's thing some more to see if I could do a better job of it with that mind. I also wanted to try using fewer colours, and just reusing the same ones over and over again to try and see their relationship better, if that makes sense. I dunno if I did a good job with it, but I'll work with that goal in mind some more throughout the next few days.
I also did another portrait, using only four grays that are relatively close together. Looking forward to moving on from faces, but I really want to get some good-looking stuff from imagination before I do.
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Postby Steeliebob » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:20 pm

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Ow shit. you started in October and you're doing studies this good. :o Very much a natural.
I don't know to much about painting but I think a lot of these are looking a bit muddy.
I''d say mix some hard edges from the last one with soft edges from the early ones. :)

Keep up the good work!
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Postby arodude » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:51 pm

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I think the recent portraits are a great improvement compared to your first ones. Keep it up!

 

Postby ephelce » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:04 am

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Steeliebob wrote:Ow shit. you started in October and you're doing studies this good. :o Very much a natural.
I don't know to much about painting but I think a lot of these are looking a bit muddy.
I''d say mix some hard edges from the last one with soft edges from the early ones. :)

Keep up the good work!

Ahhh, that makes me so happy! Especially since I love your stuff. Thank you!

Yeah, I definitely went overboard a bit on the hardness, but I wanted to yank myself out of my comfort zone. I'll try to incorporate both soft and hard in further stuff.

arodude wrote:I think the recent portraits are a great improvement compared to your first ones. Keep it up!

Thank you :D

Not much today, I worked and I work early tomorrow. WIP of something that scares me a lil, hands. Not looking for critique yet on this one since it's too unfinished.
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Postby ephelce » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:38 am

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Another WIP. It's not a study, just was having fun. I got a day off tomorrow so I'll get more done.
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Postby ephelce » Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:13 am

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Hopefully some improvement on edges. I think it still looks a bit too rough but I don't wanna work on it forever.
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Postby Koźlik » Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:51 pm

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I like that hand piece you're working on :D
Looks very good ^^
I like to draw girls. If you like girls too, you should check my Sketchbook ^^
There's stuff on my Twitter and Instagram too.
I do streams sometimes, mostly weekends on my Picarto channel.

 

Postby ephelce » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:16 am

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Koźlik wrote:I like that hand piece you're working on :D
Looks very good ^^

Thanks :)
I ended up not finishing it actually though, I have trouble motivating myself to finish things when I know I can just restart and probably do better in less time... so I did that. Critique appreciated on the second one.

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I've also been wanting to post some traditional stuff. I wanted to post some older shit first, so I went through some of my sketchbooks and took a few pictures so you guys can get an idea of it. It's a small percentage of it, I'm not putting any anatomy/figure drawings because I'd never be done if I did, but just a few neato sketches, a lot of them referenced, some of them not. A bunch of them go back next year, some are more recent, but almost none from the last sketchbook because that was pretty much just figure drawing. sorry about the really bad picture quality.

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Then there's a bit of today's output (although the pencil self-portraits were done a few days ago). I'll be switching to mostly pencil/pen soon because my computer's going to the shop. I don't know if I'll be able to post during that time, I might try to do it through my phone but I dunno. Anyway, I think it'll be good for me, I want to stop focusing so much on rendering.

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Sorry for the really long post! I should really have done this when I started the sketchbook but I was lazy.

 

Postby ephelce » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:31 am

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Some more work on the hands. Feels like I've been growing a touch complacent lately, need to stop that before it settles in.
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Postby ephelce » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:53 am

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Yeah, I wanted to work some more on structure and analyzing what I'm copying, so I learned the Reilly method today and tried it out. Today's portrait is... a bit off, but I'll get better at it. It already has more facial detail than the other ones, I think, and I feel like I'm understanding things more, which is good because most of my unreferenced stuff is still turning out uncanny valley nightmarish.

Also drew a kneeling lady, first without reference, then checked against pictures. I'm gonna try to do one pose a day minimum just so I can get a better feel for it.
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Postby ephelce » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:06 am

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Alright, did 20 faces without reference today and coloured a few of them. Also did some boxes for the Draw A Box challenges, I'll do them again and again every day until they're perfect, then I'll do the one where they're supposed to rotate freely in space following a line. One more pose without reference as promised, this time not corrected afterwards, and... a portrait, which once again followed the reilly method and looks frankly grotesque. I gave up on it in disgust. Tomorrow I lose the laptop for a bit, looking forward to no digital.
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Postby DRaff210 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:26 am

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Glad to see you've been getting more comments and activity, you really deserve it with all the dedication and mileage you're putting it!

About your figures: you say you'll do about 1 a day, and that's awesome. But I might suggest you take a look at https://line-of-action.com, which is a gesture/figure drawing website. You can choose class sessions of any length, or you can just do individual timed poses. I think it would be really great to get in the habit of doing, say, a 30-minute class session every day. You get a lot done in such a short amount of time, and doing so many really helps you retain what you've learned. Just a suggestion though; I think you're already on a path to success if you keep it up. :D

 

Postby ephelce » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:54 am

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DRaff210 wrote:Glad to see you've been getting more comments and activity, you really deserve it with all the dedication and mileage you're putting it!

About your figures: you say you'll do about 1 a day, and that's awesome. But I might suggest you take a look at https://line-of-action.com, which is a gesture/figure drawing website. You can choose class sessions of any length, or you can just do individual timed poses. I think it would be really great to get in the habit of doing, say, a 30-minute class session every day. You get a lot done in such a short amount of time, and doing so many really helps you retain what you've learned. Just a suggestion though; I think you're already on a path to success if you keep it up. :D

Thanks! It really helps getting feedback :)

Yeah, I actually am familiar with pixelovely/line-of-action, I've honestly probably done about 20-30 hours of it already. I've been putting it to the side recently but when I go back to doing figures with boxes (which is actually the whole goal of doing those rotating boxes), I'll get back to it. The one pose a day is only for unreferenced poses, and even then it'll definitely go up at some point soon. Maybe next week? There's so much to learn, haha, it's a bit overwhelming.

 

Postby ephelce » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:39 am

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Stuff. No ref. Not sure if I'm improving.
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